Making Money with this Script

[WebSuccess4You]

   Who is making money continuously for at least 6 months with this script and how are you doing it?

    I setup 3 PTC sites to generate traffic to over a dozen of my websites.

    I have a few people who pay for advertising, but I think I can generate more sales and a profit
     by showing advertisements from CPA - Affiliate networks . CPA means Cost Per Action and you can
     find out about those kind of networks and join them
     here at http://www.Make-Affiliate-Clickbank-Sales-Profits-Online.com

[757jterrell]

The key to make money with a ptc site has always been TRAFFIC generation, the more traffic, the more sales. It is an high growth rate as the traffic increases.  I will be making a few sites in Oct just to prove my point

[WebSuccess4You]

  In all due humility, you are wrong for the most part. Sorry to have to disagree with you so soon, but
when I get the most traffic to my site, I lose the most money because people come to click and be paid
not to spend money. Do you even know what a CPA network is? Which ones do you use? and what is your EPC with FluxAds, for instance.

[757jterrell]

, well before I made the script, I used to run a 100 site network and made very good money at it, just it was time consuming. So I do kinda of know what I am talking about.  Its not the members that make you money, its the advertisers.

[WebSuccess4You]

    Well, you said it was the traffic in your first post. When I get a lot of traffic I do not necessarily get more sales.  For someone who has run so may networks, you seem confused.   And as anyone knows it is the advertisers who make you the money and not the traffic. But you still haven't told me if you use CPA networks. I get it. You own the forum but you aren't going to let in on how you make money. Well, maybe someone else will,
     Since you want to play the great man and make money off me,please tell me what benefits there are to upgrading to Aurora 3 script.

[757jterrell]

LOL advertisers don't come without TRAFFIC. I have not used cpa programs in the past, but I will with the new network we are setting up. When I had my old network, I had developed a very good list of advertisers that used my sites for a variety of reasons, some just came, others I went after.  But, I had over 100 advertisers that made purchases between $50 to $100 per month on the network each. It took time to develop, but just those 100 clients brought in roughly $7500 per month for the network.

But, remember, this was a lot of work which at the time I was doing by myself, so you figure I was on the computer 6 to 8 hours per day not counting my full time job.  But, I kept in constant contact with these advertisers, talking to some several times a day. 

[757jterrell]

I thought I would give this a little more explanation.

First of all, as most owners know, this is a business and needs to be run as a business. And what most owners make the mistake is that they see the clickers as their clients, this is absolutely and totally wrong.  The clickers are basically your employees.  They are doing the work of clicking on the advertisements and visiting sites (which is the services you are really offering, ads that bring traffic to one site or another), and you pay them to do that. Now, your clients are the advertisers. Usually off site or out of the niche of ptc.  So what this really means is that yes you need to promote the site to get members to click ads, but this is only 1/3 of the equation. A very important part yes, but only part of the overall operation.  The other 2/3 are as follows:

I would say 1/3 of your time needs to be spent promoting your services and getting new advertisers and the other 1/3 of your time should be spent on improving relationships with your advertisers and increasing their expenditures. What I mean by this is discussing with them their views on your service, finding out what they really need and want from you and tailoring the package you offer them to meet their needs.  If you do this, you will see your income increase dramatically. Some clients are only looking at improving site traffic ratings, some for signups, some for specific country targeting. This means you need to TALK to them.  Almost all of my advertisers never actually visited my sites, I would find out what they needed and tailor the package I set up for them based on what they needed. If you run more than one site, know how each sites membership is made up and what type of traffic you can offer on each site, so when you develop the package for your advertiser, you can tailor it to meet their needs. You should be able to state for each site a rough percentage by country, daily overall traffic and average daily click on each ad. Not only will they be happy with your service if you approach it this way, but usually they will stay and become repeat customers.

None of this happens overnight, it takes time and you need to do it in steps, the first and the most critical is to develop a group of loyal clickers that come to the site every day and click on ads, building your traffic. Once you have a good group of solid clickers, you can begin to market your site as a service that can bring traffic to an advertiser. Be honest with advertisers, if they are looking for 50K hits per day and you can only bring in say 20K, tell them that or bring in another owner / or owners to bring in the rest.

There are various ways to get advertisers, try looking on forums as a start, dont advertise you ad rates, look over what people are looking for and make offers on the traffic they are looking for.  Some people are looking for specific traffic, if you can deliver that, make offers. As I have said, it takes time to develop advertisers and develop those relationships. When I first started, I averaged about 1 in 15 offers being closed, and about 50% of those became repeat customers.  As I developed good relationships, I almost always got referrals from my clients and gave them good commissions on that referral in the forum of free traffic.  After I became better able to "see" what an advertiser was asking for I was closing on about 1 in 8 offers; and I was making between 30 and 50 offers per day.  As with anything, it takes work and time. But it does pay off in the end.  

[theshadow]

WebSuccess4You

How many sites do you have up and running

[WebSuccess4You]

I thought I would give this a little more explanation.

First of all, as most owners know, this is a business and needs to be run as a business. And what most owners make the mistake is that they see the clickers as their clients, this is absolutely and totally wrong.  The clickers are basically your employees.  They are doing the work of clicking on the advertisements and visiting sites (which is the services you are really offering, ads that bring traffic to one site or another), and you pay them to do that. Now, your clients are the advertisers. Usually off site or out of the niche of ptc.  So what this really means is that yes you need to promote the site to get members to click ads, but this is only 1/3 of the equation. A very important part yes, but only part of the overall operation.  The other 2/3 are as follows:

I would say 1/3 of your time needs to be spent promoting your services and getting new advertisers and the other 1/3 of your time should be spent on improving relationships with your advertisers and increasing their expenditures. What I mean by this is discussing with them their views on your service, finding out what they really need and want from you and tailoring the package you offer them to meet their needs.  If you do this, you will see your income increase dramatically. Some clients are only looking at improving site traffic ratings, some for signups, some for specific country targeting. This means you need to TALK to them.  Almost all of my advertisers never actually visited my sites, I would find out what they needed and tailor the package I set up for them based on what they needed. If you run more than one site, know how each sites membership is made up and what type of traffic you can offer on each site, so when you develop the package for your advertiser, you can tailor it to meet their needs. You should be able to state for each site a rough percentage by country, daily overall traffic and average daily click on each ad. Not only will they be happy with your service if you approach it this way, but usually they will stay and become repeat customers.

None of this happens overnight, it takes time and you need to do it in steps, the first and the most critical is to develop a group of loyal clickers that come to the site every day and click on ads, building your traffic. Once you have a good group of solid clickers, you can begin to market your site as a service that can bring traffic to an advertiser. Be honest with advertisers, if they are looking for 50K hits per day and you can only bring in say 20K, tell them that or bring in another owner / or owners to bring in the rest.

There are various ways to get advertisers, try looking on forums as a start, dont advertise you ad rates, look over what people are looking for and make offers on the traffic they are looking for.  Some people are looking for specific traffic, if you can deliver that, make offers. As I have said, it takes time to develop advertisers and develop those relationships. When I first started, I averaged about 1 in 15 offers being closed, and about 50% of those became repeat customers.  As I developed good relationships, I almost always got referrals from my clients and gave them good commissions on that referral in the forum of free traffic.  After I became better able to "see" what an advertiser was asking for I was closing on about 1 in 8 offers; and I was making between 30 and 50 offers per day.  As with anything, it takes work and time. But it does pay off in the end.  

   Thank you very much for a very thorough professional reply. I was concerned for awhile. But I am
back in your corner now,so to speak.

[WebSuccess4You]

WebSuccess4You

How many sites do you have up and running

    Do you want an exact count or an approximation? Approximately 35 blogs, 4 TEs /PTCs,1 forum,
16 websites. PR for websites ranges from PR 3 -PR1. Traffic on biggest website that it is over 10,000
pages is over 5,000 unique visitors a day. I work about 65 hours  a week at the Dept. of Homeland Security
and am a former Windows/Unix System Administrator ,BEA Message Specialist and Software engineer: C,C++,Visual Basic,Java, JavaScript,Perl,Oracle,ColdFusion, PageMaker: College Instructor,now learning MySQL and PHP.